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that he saw there. i personally will not go back to who i was before. i am completely changed as they await. >> tell cat is return. they pray, grateful. they say no blood was spilled in his rescue, that the war and the suffering may end. and all the hostages come home and it really is a strange feeling being there with that family absolutely. they have that feeling of celebration. but what's really coming through to me, at least when i was there is the reality for them of what this loss means, of how much they've suffered really how long that road to recovery is and then you think of the hundred and four other october 7 hostages, 34 of them believed to be dead, but that's another 70 families who are hoping to have moments like this. but they are as we've seen, so bitter, sweet, the hard reality of all that pain and suffering

anderson, nic robertson, thanks. >> the news continues here on cnn outfront. >> next, breaking news tonight, a new indictment for donald trump. special counsel, jack smith with a brand new filing just coming out night before a major deadline, changing the legal seen tonight, trump white house attorney ty cobb is outfront and more breaking news this hour, harris and walz announced there the first joint intervheren cnn. so what'going to happen plus, did rfk junior commit a felony? kennedy's daughters, as he once beheaded away driving it from massachusetts to new york on the roof of a minivan, environmentalist are saying he broke the law. a bizarre tale. let's go outfront good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, a w indictment for donald j. trump in a total surprise to trump, apparently he was given absolutely no warning. special counsel jack smith filed this. this is the new indictmentnd now all in its 36 pages, it

indict trump for january 6. so you might when yeameay that be a surprisedoes tmp thinking, didn't the supreme court say that trump had immunity and shoot this entire case down, went into the garbage. well, yes. except in this indictment, smith says, it's going to hold up to the supreme court's immunity ruling. it is not as long. okay. like i mentioned, 36 pages, the original indictment that smith had filed that fell to the immunity decision from the supreme court was 45 pages but. 36 pages is still a lot in this smith's stands by the four original crucial counts that trump faced, which include conspiracy to defraud the united states. so this is crucial to emphasize those four core charges are still there just to make the significance clear, we looked it up and the maximum prison sentence of those four counts combined the maximum is 55 years in prison. ruling that makes it clear what smith says. we'll hold under the supreme court's immunity

decision 55 years. so to bolster his claim that this revised indictment holds and is consistent with that supreme court ruling granting broad immunity to presidents smith added new sections to try to show that trump's acts on january 6 were unofficial. unofficial is the crucial word that the supreme court used to say. to say that unofficial acts of a sitting president can be prosecuted. so smith went back, looked at it and said, all right, i'm going to show you how these counts that could send someone to prison for 55 years were an official in one new section. he does that by writing quote throughout the conspiracies although the defendants sometimes used his twitter account to communicate with the public as president about official actions and policies. he also regularly used it for personal purposes including to spread knowingly false claims of election fraud, exhort his supporters to travel to washington, dc on january 6 pressure the vice president and misuse his ceremonial role in the certification proceeding and leverage the events at the

capitol on january 6 to unlawfully retain power and then at another point, smith writes, the defendant continued his lies through the day of the certification proceeding on january 6. that morning, the defendant gave a campaign speech at a privately funded privately organized political rally on the lips in washington, dc so you hear those words personal purposes, privately funded, privately organized on official acts. evan perez is outfront in washington and evan, the special counsel, making these changes emphasizing this unofficial nature, but keeping those four charges that carry such as serious serious level of penalty if convicted. and surprise trump with this filing today that's right, erin, look, i mean, what one of the things that the special counsel has been doing these last few weeks has been going through line by line. >> the original 45 page indictment and looking through the evidence, they had to try to see what could support these

four counts and they arrived at the same thing. what they did, a lot of this is editing, as you pointed out in this new indictment, which by the way, they presented to a grand jury a brand new grand jury, one that had not heard the previous the previous evidence. they made sure they went to a new grand jury they to be able to say that this is not tainted by the previous evidence. but what one of the things that they do here is that they've removed all references to the justice department and justice department official, jeffrey clark, he is you remember the former official who donald trump at one point tried to appoint u.s. attorney general in order to help bolster his claims of vote fraud. that has gone also gone is some of these conversations with mark meadows, again, someone who is very close to the former president. he's a close aide and under the terms of the supreme court ruling, that is not evidence that they could use in court. so a lot of that stuff is now gotten now, one of the big surprises in here, it will see lot of evidence about mike pence and one of the things that you see in the editing of this new indictment

is a references to him as senate president, his ceremonial role to certify the vote on january 6, and that you see is helps to bolster a couple of these counts here, which are related to the former president's role in trying to impede an official proceeding so what the first thing now that happens after this erin is next week, a test before judge tanya chutkan, she's going to hold a hearing and we'll see other any of this new editing of this new indictment passes a test with her, and that is obviously going to be crucial, evan. thank you. i want to go to phil mattingly now because phil, you've covered trump extensively there were many who thought this might go away, forever or enlarged part. but this is a surprise filing and the foreign key charges are still there. that would carry a combined 55 years in maximum prison time if someone were to

be convicted of them so this surprises trump today. what are you learning about? how we find out, how he found out, and what he's doing right now. >> yeah. erin surprise the legal team also surprised that senior political team around the former president and what's interesting to your point, they're kind of been a sense and being on the campaign trail with him last week, especially that this was kind of in the rearview, was not a folk good point as it had been for so many months leading up to the general election of any of his campaign speeches, he would mention it in passing, sometimes particularly the florida case that had been dismissed, jack smith's classified documents case, but it was not central despite the fact his rally goers, his supporters are very much behind him on this issue. that seems like like it's likely to change in the weeks ahead is one trump adviser close associate told me we have a playbook for this. it's not necessarily a playbook. they wanted to discover, but it's certainly one they found to be quite effective during the republican primary win, the former president's steamrolled has republican opponents really kind of found himself at the height of power within the

republican party, despite this being the third time he has been the nominee. and we've already seen some of that playbook rollout. you saw the former president respond on social media at length at one point and then a stream of responses since then, we've also seen the campaign already blast out a fund raising request that says, i will quote, never surrender are very similar language to what we saw throughout his legal issues earlier in the year sure and that's important right now, particularly given his current opponent has raised more than a half a billion since joe biden dropped out of the race. now, should note the former president says that this is something that's being driven by the vice president, kamala harris. there's no evidence of that, just as there was never any evidence that joe biden was driving these cases. but once again, it is similar language, similar hello, are framing and a similar effort to elevate something that for most politicians would be a significant problem. the real question going forward, this will likely be a focal point of some of those campaign trail remarks in the weeks ahead will he make appearances at the courthouse will the rest of the playbook rollout as it had before? that's an open question, but certainly we've

seen a lot of this before. >> we certainly having it'd be amazing to see if we really do get some visibility on how successful the fundraising is. because as you pointed, has been before and it was a real indicator of sort of his his rise and resurgence at whether that actually is still the case. i felt thank you very much. let's go to ty cobb now, former trump white house lawyer. ty, you've had a chance to read through these 36 pages, obviously slimmed down just a little bit, not much, nine pages fewer than the original indictment filed last year. keeping those four key charges and an editing emphasizing that it is in a personal, private capacity under which smith has the authority to make this indictment did he do it? does this indictment make a clean cut case at the acts were personal i think it does. i think, you know, some of the editing you highlighted in your intro is spot on emphasizing the private nature of many of these acts as private funding of the speech at the on at the

end before the capital intrusion pinson ceremonial roll, the non-governmental roles of the coconspirators, which they can now say categorically. and now the jeffrey clark is that because he was the only government official who was actually in the original indictment is no longer in this indictment. so all the all the coconspirators were acting in their private capacity. >> i think this threads the needle i if i'm if i'm trump's lawyers, i'm surprised. >> i'm i'm scratching my head at that because this was this was the reasonable approach to take, you no reason to go through a series of hearings before judge chutkan enforce the task of editing the indictment on her. when you look forward a forceful case like this? and do the work for her. alright. so then what happens? she gets this case as evan was laying out next week, what happens then and does i mean, i guess then does eventually just go back to the

supreme court. where is this fast or slow from here so it will be slow from here. not, not merely because of the superseding being indictment, whatever the indictment was going to look like after it went through whatever hearings that judge chutkan is going to happen, she still will have a hearing on the adequacy of this indictment it does have you know, there is a interlocutory appeal available, at least as i read the supreme court decision and that doesn't mean the supreme court has to take it if the dc circuit acts before in their content with whatever they do. but this is definitely, this has never, this hasn't been on course to go before the election. >> for months. and this was never going was never going to happen, but as you point out, i mean, this is very forceful document. it's pared down. every sentence is, you know, crisply worded. it's a tight narrative you can't read this and not understand the crimes that trump actually committed. and you said as you pointed out

55 years is exposure that he's not going to get 55 years, but he'll get six to nine on this see about that? >> yeah six okay. so you think he could get six to nine and obviously i'd put out 55 just a so people understand the seriousness but even six to nine. i mean, for someone his age, it's very significant. i mean, you know him well. what do you think happens from here? >> oh, i you know, he doesn't he won't take this seriously until the final gavel comes down. jurors come back and say guilty and he actually gets sentenced. but this will be a lot of delaying tactics by by his lawyers. they've already said it's the same indictment clearly, it's not they've already said that this will be dismissed should be dismissed immediately and won't be dismissed immediately and i think the people that view this as a rescue or as some retreat by smith's read this

completely wrong. this is what happens in the ordinary course if the supreme court takes an action that eliminate it's not approach that was previously available the prudent thing to do is to change course to facts haven't changed and as you pointed out, the charges haven't changed their the same charges, and there easily proved all right. >> and of course, we should emphasize is evan did it was a different grand jury. so there wasn't there's no bias or prejudice by them and what they were looking at new group of people looked at a new indictment and they came to a very clear conclusion that it was but it you go ahead. all right. ty, thank you. >> my pleasure. nice to be with you. all right. you to a next, we have more breaking news tonight. kamala harris going to sit for her first major interviews since biden dropped out of the race, she will be interviewed right here on cnn and she won't be alone tim walz will be with her new reporting coming into outfront that evangelical leaders are the ones who want trump to keep his mouth shut about abortion, despite that being such a time up issue, we're going to share with you this very important reporting. plus did rfk junior

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home i was a teenager when that day finally and i can remember so well, how excited she was doing. >> everything we can to make it more affordable to buy a home meanwhile harris is running mate, minnesota governor tim walz obviously has been heavily leaning into his midwestern roots, and he gave a social media interview about home maintenance today. what's your take? >> my take is the most neglected part of homeownership is the gutters gets personal for me, 100% agree. i've had problems with gutters before you get your basem*nt wet, you get as dam caused a lot of problems how often do you like looking at gutters? i looked quite often surprisingly because like the judge, i try not to be judgmental on people, but when i see a well-tended gutter it says a lot about somebody's so alright, everyone's here with me now are eight jamal. okay. >> like you got to laugh at that. >> he's right. >> gutters are important. to

their daughter issues right now. >> okay. the kamala harris went almost more interesting in a sense though, because obviously she's been in office for three-and-a-half years, so to say it's a completely new the quantity and she had run for president before, very different than tim walz, who truly actually is an unknown quantity to most americans outside minnesota. but what do they need to do in this interview mining that they're going to be sitting together. >> they've got to put themselves in context, right? so people know kamala harris because she was a former prosecutor from california and vice president her own words, she didn't just fall out of a coconut tree she's actually a person where the history she's got a lot of work, she's done before and now she's got some work. she wants to do as president united states. so he's got a name that's very well-known. my doesn't have an identity or a story that's very well-known. and i think that's part of what this is about. and then what tim walz, you're turning them he's an every man. you're getting the two of them together to talk about real middle-class issues, big pain points for people homeownership and gutter and eric i'm curious what you make

a bad the gutters thing that you can't not laugh at it. >> you can't not say a point yet. this whole thing. and i wondered why so many republicans are leaning so heavily on it. why doesn't you do an interview? because it was obvious she would do an interview and now she's doing an interview and she's going to do more interviews. so does this take away what had become a really loud and key talking point for the gop. you know, where is her interview strategy? >> yeah, it does now. and good for cnn for getting it. >> and i assume, i mean, it's dana bash is going to be asked you to have you on policy and substance, you know, when you look at just the things that for example, kamala harris told you when she did her open forum in 2020 that she wanted to use the government to curb peoples fred meeting, get rid of fracking and ev mandates. would she's walked back there, the her staff as well back today and a health care getting rid of insurance with jake tapper or with don lemon at the time that she thought that people on in jail should be able to vote.

these are questions that i think her staff has said she's walked back, but she hasn't said so it's going to be interesting to see how far she's willing to walk back. >> some of those things that hit in the part of popular culture. you mentioned some of them, but i remember the i remember the straws, the plastic straws ellis j.d. vance today was in michigan, which is obviously must win state at he was talking when we talk about this biography issue and what walz and harris are going to try to do. he also has been trying to make this about biography. so he talked about his mother today and her struggles with addiction, his j.d. vance i thought i would lose my mom when i was a kid and i prayed every single day that she would somehow find her way to a second chance, know that a lot of americans prayed for that second chance and thank god, we got it. alyssa, how much of this race comes down to biography versus policy? i mean, just to be very blunt about it listen, i think that the candidates have to

make the american public think that they understand their struggles and the waltz harris ticket is trying to flip the tackle going after the elites narrative that trump kind of dominated by saying, we weren't elites, we both worked at mcdonald's. >> we didn't own homes until later in life. whereas the trump-vance ticket has kind of had to, they've, they've struggled to find their footing and defining themselves. this was one of the better, more humanizing moment i think for j.d. vance, somebody who's struggled in his favorabilities is actually declined since he's been vp. but this is a man with an incredible life story. i think one of the reasons he was picked it was the narrative he has from hillbilly elegy and some of his upbringing, more he can talk about things like addiction which impacts one in three americans, the more i think people would say this might be an okay guy. more of that, less bashing childless cat, ladies wow that's for sure. >> all right. so eric, amidst all of this, you know, the kind of latest scrum in the water or chum in the water to use the word was rfk junior's endorsem*nt. and trump is going all in eric on his embrace of rfk junior despite rfk

junior's long history of being a democrat, which i guess trump shares, right? rfk, known conspiracy theorists on things like vaccines. but sources have confirmed eric to us that kennedy is going to be part of trump's transition team if he wins and this is just some of what we have heard from trump and vance about kennedy since his endorsem*nt of trump or you considering appointing rfk junior's or health secretary if you're reelected, we have a joke about it, but he knows a lot about the subject matter or any really he received by the party. >> he's a great guy very well received i hope rfk has a role because he's a smart guy. >> i think he's fundamentally a good guy and i'm glad to have all the team hope he has a role, glad to have him on the team. do you share those views, eric but listen, it might bring them 12 or 13 votes. >> trump is probably more likely to lose pro-lifers for saying women's reproductive rights will do graded his administration than the votes he's going to gain from rfk. i

just, you know, as an actual conservative before i'm a republican, i find the rfk stuff weird. he's progressive on guns, he's progressive on abortion, his progressive on health care. the only thing he shares an overlap with trump team is this deep distrust of the establishment elite in washington and new york and the questioning on covid and things like that. but for him to get embed with the guy who actually didn't agree great thing and operation warp speed, it's i don't know as a conservative, i'm baffled and i would just say there are probably far fewer people willing to come to trump than be alienated by robert kennedy. >> well, that is fascinating because if you're right about that is a huge problem. and jamal, i'm i'm sure you hope that eric's analysis there is correct kenney though, you know, we know andrew kaczynski gone through and found the past and what kennedy really thinks about trump. and it's pretty nasty worst president, all sorts of things bully, you, name it but now he's releasing a new ad using words of his father over images of trump. here's a clip we can perhaps

remember if only for a time that those who live with us are our brothers and surely we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the wounds among us and to become in our hearts brothers and countrymen once again i actually, and that's it's trying to emphasize that rfk is crossing party lines at a patriotism does that resonate? do you think that will resonate with some? >> i don't i'm having physical reactions to it because rfk is somebody that many of us democrats look up to. he's you know, one of the icons, of the democratic party as he talks about someone who lives among us, donald trump doesn't live among us who lives in the penthouse high above fifth avenue in new york he lives in a club at mar-a-lago and he's not binding up our wounds. i mean, if that's what you're in this for, that'll trump as somebody who since to

put salt in the wounds and so it just doesn't make any sense. it just seems to me like there are a lot of kooky ideas that are all found now in the same corner of the internet and the same corner of our politics. and it's kennedy and trump working together. >> paul begala was saying, alyssa, that trump would get rid of j.d. vance now he said and put j and put rfk. i'm sorry, rfk junior on the ticket. can i just ask you elicit knowing trump as you do? >> and knowing that among some of his supporters, he certainly perceived j.d. >> vance to actually be a success, although not among the broader public, maybe at this point do you think he would ever dumped j.d. vance listen, i think that if kamala harris gets the post-convention bump, we think if she successful on the debate and she's ahead outside of the margin of error and enough swing-states, i wouldn't rule anything out. >> donald trump is, is desperate to win this in some ways, his freedom is on the line in light of this new court the filing related to january 6, i wouldn't rule it out less than he loves rfk junior

because he's a kennedy. he loves the cache of kennedy name. i think he would love the idea of a trump kennedy ticket. but the reality of this to eric's point error comes from the conservative wing of the gop. i come from the centrist wing of the republican party and everyday donald trump is giving think people like me more and more permission to not vote for republicans by surrounding himself by people like rfk junior, tulsi gabbard, even a j.d. vance, who the fundamentals we just don't agree on whether its support for ukraine not having tariffs on imports wanting to pass border security deals. so i think he's really doubling down to what is a minority within a minority of the gop? >> well, interesting, i will say all three of you agree on rfk junior. i want j.d vance, j.d. vance days and jd and i'm not surprised, eric, you have a very for you and alyssa it a very dim view on that, but i will say there we go on that rare nova agreement from very different political perspectives. >> thanks so much to all it's great to see you an extra reality check. former president obama warning democrats to not

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outstanding and the theme was joy. and so people were feeling great. and i want everybody to feel great, but i also want everybody to get a little bit of a reality check. and this comes as harris is headed to georgia for her very first campaign stops since the dnc, nick valencia is in georgia with tonight night voters outfront you can see some other states we're doing a little bit more beer for veronica king, the dnc was everything. i'm texting. i'm like, oh, my gosh, like little john is counting down, sitting under a canopy of trees in georgia is bellwether of cobb county. think says she's most excited to see the influence the dnc had on her 19-year-old son in november remember, he'll vote for the first time. that makes you excited to see your young son excited yes. >> and to see people his age one, to actually vote and be engaged. >> i don't i'm not necessarily thinking that it's supposed to be trendy, but not every voter here shares that

enthusiasm. twenty-two-year-old brooklyn watson voted for biden in 2020. and although she his leaning democrat this time around, she says she's still undecided. >> i don't think i'm looking necessarily for fun. again, just something that is successfully going to help though the economy and the community the enthusiasm from the dnc didn't affect your decision and make you sort of grounded or solidify your vote for harris? no, no, it's not necessarily well, it's a lot of fight, but and yes, to learn more about her looking at his checking account the last four years is enough for charles teamster to have already made up his mind. this november, the republican said, he'll be voting for a better economy. something he thinks harris cannot deliver the issues that she talks about now and that's she's not proven. she's not proven. so i don't know if she's trusted. >> do you think trump is proven the economy was definitely proven? >> when he was in office, her background is phenomenal coming in as a prosecutor, and i think

she is for everyone. and in particular, the middle-class, and we need diversity. >> kathy slaw is the type of georgia voter that both harris and trump are trying to win over. a moderate democrat. laws voted for republicans the past, but not this time. she loved the messaging in tone from the vice president at the dnc as a human being as an individual. i think she's looking out for all of us no matter what background for the self-described centrist, mike wilkinson, the thought of trump getting a second term is scary. it's also deeply personal and when the time came for me and my partner at the time to decide about an abortion or not. we chose not to have an abortion. >> but that was hers. and my choice and it shouldn't be there, shouldn't be anybody in that room besides the patient and the doctor 2020 was decided by less than 12,000 votes. now that harris has voters attention here in the peach state, can she count on getting their votes to the two big

issues on voters minds here are the economy and reproductive rights. but perhaps most interestingly is the mixed reaction among younger voters. i spoke to a group of 20 something-year-olds off camera and they say that they're still undecided with one telling me though, that she voted for joe biden in 2020, but his voting for donald trump in 2020 for because of the economy clearly though others very concerned about abortion rights and that is an issue vice president can use to pick up some votes here in georgia where the race is expected to be close. aaron. >> all right. nick, thank you very much. and so so crucial when you talk about this and trump trying to figure out where to stand on it here at erick erickson for the conservative wing of the party it is it's being torn in two different directions to win conservatives and moderates, as we just heard from that voter in georgia, abortion though is a key issue that right, it's going to matter and it's an issue right now that is working against trump abortion is on the ballot intense state, so it's actually on the ballot up and turnout for those who care passionately about it, florida is one of those states where they'll decide voters there, whether a six-week abortion russian ban will be overturned

or not. trump is a florida resident. he has not said how he will vote, but he does promise to address it i'm going to announce that i'm going to actually have a press conference on that at some point in the near future. >> so i don't want to tell you now tonight we've got new reporting from trump team insider, marc caputo, a bulwark, and he makes it clear that voters may never know how trump feels about the abortion ban. so marks out front now, marc, i was just saying, when trump i was thinking to myself when your answer to a question is, i'll let you know soon. then you're struggling and it is obvious you don't have a moral stake on the issue, right and i don't think he's ever pretended to have that, but that's not what certainly conservatives wanted to hear. and it's certainly not what people who think all of these things are crazy want to hear. what are you learning about how he plans to handle this issue in what now, honestly, you're coming into september or the final weeks? so the campaign right? well, a little correction there. there are some conservatives and surprisingly so evan jellico, advisers to donald trump who

wanted to have kind of a don't ask, don't tell policy. >> they're like, look, don't talk about this because when you talk about abortion, when donald trump talks about abortion, he's not talking about an issue that is winning, and he's winning on the economy, at least he was until recently winning on immigration. >> but abortion sort of a no-no. so a number of evan of angelical leaders, he's spoken to advisors of donald trump have said, look, you his job is to win the election and of talking about this florida amendment hurts him and other states. he shouldn't talk about it and there's a high possibility, but i don't want to forecast what donald trump is going to do that he's going to take that advice and either not talk about it or if he does mentioned i was going to vote on what's called amendment four in florida. it's going to be far later in the calendar than we were otherwise i do believe that's very interesting. >> and how those who obviously have a very strong opinion on it to your point would say just just don't say anything that they would rather he not on something that extensively so crucial to them that's very telling. but what's also interesting on this, and it will come out more and more of,

i mean, it's on the ballot in ten states and we know that in red states where it's been on the ballot, it has not gone the conservatives way. donald trump has changed his views on abortion. i mean, talk about flip-flopping, right mark over the years, here's just a taste of it i'm very pro-choice. >> i'm also proud to be the most pro-life president in american history. very pro choice, most pro-life president in history. i mean, does anybody, really know where he stands now will the pro-life community does, or i should say the anti-abortion community, evan jellico community, by and large does release the leaders. >> they say, look, we know where he stands but donald trump does run the risk of that tag, that slogan, the mock, mocking phrase that was applied to mitt romney back in the day, where his opponent said, myths, not pro-choice myths, not anti-choice myths, multiple choice on abortion and so the question is, will that stick to donald trump? i don't think

so, but he's trying his best just to avoid this so far so sort of good. but this is just an issue, doesn't want to talk about. >> no, it isn't. but on the ballot in ten states and as we said, i mean, this is, this has not gone the conservatives way and multiple red states, including ohio i want j.d. vance. alright, thanks very much. marc, great to see you thanks to you too. all right. and next rfk junior under fire for a potential felony and the offense in his case is allegedly sawing off a dead whales head and tying it to the top it's car. what in the world was he doing? >> and did the jail billionaire founder of telegram want to get arrested to avoid putin's wrath? thursday, the most anticipated interview of this election kamala harris and tim walz sit down on with dana bash for the first interview. harris and walz of cnn exclusive thursday night at nine dangerous ladders, gutter mac

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junior commit a felony? so an environmental group tonight is calling for an investigation into a resurface claim that kennedy sawed off the head of a dead whale and then transported the carcass on the roof of his minivan and where does this story come from? >> his own daughter, who shared the story? all the way back in 2012 saying quote, people on the highway were giving us the finger, but that was just normal day-to-day stuff for us. tom foreman is outfront 1 million whale watchers come to new england each year, but it was a dead whale that brought robert f. >> kennedy jr. running in 1990s to chains off its head and strap that massive cranium to his van, where he was daughter kick just six when it happened. every time we accelerated on the highway, she told town and country in 2012 whale jews would pour into the windows of

the car and it was the rank is thing on the planet that old story is finding new life ever since he suspended his longshot presidential campaign to back donald trump oh, you want us safe environment for your children tragic discovery in new york central park. >> bear cub found dead underneath some bushes, but other tales about his antics with animals have also popped up. >> take that dead bear cub. >> he says he found ten years ago on a rural road with friends. >> i said, let's go put the bear in central park it look like he i didn't play the prank. became a gruesome sensation. >> i was like, oh, my god, what did i do for a man with deep roots in the environmental movement, rfk junior's menagerie of animal companions could be called eccentric look what i can do from the ravens in his backyard them to come in

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specializes in russia's military philip says, quote, if i controlled an asset of great importance to the kremlin, and i just visited is it a location full of kremlin higher-ups? >> and i chose to get on a plane and fly to a place where i would most likely be arrested. that indeed i wanted to get arrested for my own protection fred pleitgen is outfront but russia state controlled tv up in arms, labeling the arrest of telegram founder pavel durov as a direct attack against moscow. i don't think it wasn't arrests. >> it was kidnapping, basically a hostage taking directs political and economic aggression against russia pavel durov remains in french custody. this video posted on telegram purporting to show door off and some associates that caption saying they were having breakfast in azerbaijan for flying to paris. french prosecutors say durov is the subject of a cyber crimes

investigation and alleging telegram was complicit in, among other things, elicit transactions, spreading child p*rnography, and a fraud by failing to moderate the content shared on the platform telegram's has durov has nothing to hide, but russia's foreign minister now insinuating that the arrest may be politically motivated, even though france is president, denied politics were involved she apparently, someone is hoping to somehow gain access to encryption codes now, this is already been proven by the actions of the french that telegram is a truly reliable and popular network. the 39-year-old durov, often referred to as the russian mark zuckerberg is one of the world's most well-known social media moguls cultivating a playboy like image, often posting shirtless pictures of himself on social media and even claiming he's fathered more than 100 children he's the co-founder, not just of

telegram used by hundreds of millions worldwide, but also a russian platform similar to facebook called the conductor durov rejects any regulation and moderation on his platforms, as he told cnn in an interview in 2015. >> and are you aware that i.s.i.s extremists terrorists also used telegram i heard of that, yes. >> we are not happy about that but i guess this kind of people use lots of encrypted technology while there have been questions about possible links between door off and the kremlin. vladimir putin spokesman denied the two recently met when both were in azerbaijan still pro kremlin propagandists are voicing their support for durov like this rapper who goes by the name shaman media it is only in russia that you can breathe freely and easily when i come back home here, you are always remembered waited for and loved

fred pleitgen, cnn berlin thanks to fred and outfront. >> now, john sullivan, he is the former u.s. ambassador to russia under both presidents, bideand prident trump, he is the author of the new book, midnight and moscow, a memoir from the front lines of russia's war against the west. and ambassador, i appreciate your time. i mean, there's a lot of injuries craig, and open questions about durov's detainment in france telegram. absolutely. obviously, crucial to the russian military and perhaps extremely close even to russia's security services in the fsb, what do you think is going on here? >> well, thanks. first of all, erin, great to be with you. this is an immensely complex case. as you noted russians, both the ordinary russians and the russian military depend on telegram. putin tried to shut telegram down in 2018. and there was an outcry. they were working around and he couldn't do it. so the russians depend

on telegram the other thing to note there were so many complexities here this fellow is a citizen of france, in addition to being a citizen of russia so it's very complex. he hasn't been in russia in years. he hadn't cooperated with the russian security services while he was in russia. so it's very complex. the russians will use this. putin will use this to his advantage anyway, can including by saying it's hypocrisy by the west pressing free speech is certainly saw in the pictures we're showing a pavel durov, i mean, sort of the shirtless cultive personality something of course that evoked someone else in russia who likes to do that, but performative putin himself philips o'brien, as i mentioned him, expert in the russian military, you, he was just raising the point that some have raised, which is like if they're going to be putin and pavel durov known to be in the same place at the same time, very recently. and then durov leaves that place and goes to france, where there's a

warrant for his arrest and he knows that there's a billionaire with 100 kids live in the life and dubai you know, it begs the question, why would you go someplace we are going to be arrested and possibly spend the next 20 years in prison. philips o'brien raises the point, maybe it's because you thought it was your best option. if you were choosing between that and some sort of death at the hands of putin security services do you think there's anything to that possibly. or is that conspiracy it's possible. >> not i wouldn't say it was likely but you know, we're just a few days removed from the anniversary of prigozhin death with a bomb on his plane. so any anything's possible in putin's russia. and as i say, very complex, it'll, it'll take some time to unwind all these threads so ambassador putin is going to be dealing with new u.s president next year, either wanting knows donald trump or one that he has never dealt with before i mean,

he's out as vp, but a female president of the united states, that would be the first woman president. of course, the first woman president of color how do you think he views vice president harris well, i would think from his perspective, looking at it from his perspective, i would think the most important thing for kim would be her relative lack of experience compared, for example, to joe biden in foreign affairs and in dealing with russia the sexism in russia is notorious. >> i saw it, i was upfront and close witness to it while in moscow, but i think from putin's perspective, it's really her experience he wouldn't want a margaret thatcher in the oval office and he doesn't know what he's going to get with a president harris. so it's interesting question though, i will invest yourself and i really appreciate your time. thank you. and to remind everybody your new book, midnight in

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